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 Post subject: 650 joyner engine swap
PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:11 pm 
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hi,
does anyone know if its possible to put the 3 cylinder 800cc or 1100cc engines in a 650cc Joyner buggy, i think the transmissions are the same so my drive shafts should fit with out to much modification I'm just wondering if it would drop right in?
cheers, Les.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:38 am 
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The 800 will bolt up but dont think the 1100 will.
Obviousely you will need motor mounts, wiring,exhaust mods and so on .

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 Post subject: This may get easier...
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:14 pm 
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I have heard that Joyner is scrapping the 650 engine in the Sand Spider and will be replacing it with the 800, keeping it in the same spider frame style. This may make your mod easier - hopefully they will sell a kit. I also heard they will be introducing a 500cc engine in the current 250cc sand viper frame. (info from my dealer; I did not hear either of these from Joyner myself).


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When are these engine upgrades suppose to happen?

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 Post subject: cheers guys
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:25 pm 
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thanks for your replies
yeah a kit would be great, i think i wont have a problem getting a new 800cc and tranz may have to fab engine mounts? what i need is to pick the brains of someone who has already done this mod.
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Neither the 800cc the 1000cc or the 1100cc chery will bolt up to a 650 tranny. Also the 1100 is different then the 800cc or the 1000cc. The 800cc (most of them) and the 1000cc will exchange.

Just checked with joyner and the two engine mods mentioned are not in the works. I was told the 650 spider is still there best selling unit. Also the 250 and the 150 viper may both be going away dependind on sales in near future.


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a 500 in the 250 frame would be sweeeeeeet

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The Huaihai 650 and 800 both have the same transmission!

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I have both sitting in front of me and they are not the same. Not even close. Maybe there is an 800 that is the same as the 650. But the 2 in front of me will not exchange.


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Yep your correct Van, Sorry for the missinformation.
I was told that one of my customers did this swap with out changing the tranz.
I did some research and they are differant for sure.
Again Sorry for the bad info.

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 Post subject: engine swap
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:06 am 
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hi
I've been speaking to a UK dealer A1 buggy's, he's just got back from Joyner in china and he tells me there will be an 800cc in the 650 frame stock also there's gonna be an EFI 800cc version and there working on a better trans for both, yay!
i dunno when these will be available?
he also tells me that he has had plenty of inquiries for the 800 swap, so he will be looking at putting out a kit at some point hopefully it to will be an EFI version, if i can find out more I'll keep ya posted
regards Les.


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I think your a little behind the 800cc that Joyner sells now is the old 650 sand viper with the 800cc engine. And all the 800ccs have been EFI for some time now, about two years. Maybe it is different were you are at.


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IF Joyner puts an 800 in the Spyder.......That my friends, will be the ultimate trail buggy.........

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