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 Post subject: Alternative Parts for Joyner Sand Spider
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:23 am 
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Ok here is my list so far on Arctic Cat parts & other companies that will cross over to the SS. Some of these MIGHT work on other models & brands. The castings look better on some of these. Are they better or stronger I can't tell you that, I will say the rear knuckles are WAY lighter due to being made out of Aluminum & look stronger. These are a huge unsprung weight savings, I have ran them hard & they work great! These are off their 700 UTV so I don't see a problem with them.
I know this list might upset some dealers on this site but it also gives an alternative for them to get their supply faster & within the states. Also Arctic Cat uses these parts across a huge amount of their ATV's , so a 400 could use the same part as a 700. These are the one's I have found but others might work just as well.
If you ask me to submit a part please make sure they work or if some modification is needed to work.

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1) Right front Knuckle= Arctic Cat 2003 ATV 500
Part # 0505-062

2) Left front Knuckle= Arctic Cat 2003 ATV 500
Part # 0505-063

3)Bearing, Wheel Hub - Front= Arctic Cat 2003 ATV
500 Part # 0402-275

4)Seal, Wheel Bearing - Front=Arctic Cat 2003
ATV 500 outer Part # 0402-089 Inner Seal
Part # 0402-069

5)Axle, Stub – Front=Arctic Cat:2002 ATV
400/500 Part # 1402-006 (Wheel spindle)

6)Hub, Wheel – Front- (Disk Base) Arctic Cat: 2005 ATV 650 H1 Part # 0502-599

7)RH REAR KNUCKLE ASSY= ARCTIC CAT: 2006 500 ATV
PART#0504-372-

8)Frame Paint (Red)- Sunrise Red, Home Depot Very close match.

9) 1974 55 amp Toyota Corrolla alt. You need to add 3 washers as spacer's & you'll need to press out the lower bolt adapter ( 10 mm hole) & use the old one (8 mm) from the old alt. You'll also need a new belt (I got mine at Autozone Duralast #15345).
If you want a stock amperage set-up use a 88 Suzuki Samurai alt. direct fit

10) Wilwood racing brakes. It was a perfect match it's their PS1 2 piston calipers. A little expensive but worth it.

11) TRANSMISSION OUTPUT SEAL X-OVER IS A
CR 35X72X8 CRWA1 R
THE SKU # IS 0085311013642
THE SEAL # IS 13980
IT IS USA
http://www.skf.com/portal/skf/home/prod ... ink=7_1_05

12) Oil Filter= FRAM: TG4967, Wix 51294, Napa gold #1360. Warning possible fitment issues with different years.

13)Axle CVC boot= Moose CV Axle Boot Kit Trx650 Rincon 06-08 (Inboard only) Manufacturer Part Number: 0213-0251

14) Ignition Module Replacement:
1988 Suzuki Samuari has 100% the same in every way
if you can find one

15) All 4 lug Honda Accord Wheels fit the SS, good for spare

16) 2007 Artic Cat 500 4x4 Brake pads
Part # FA 395SV are EBC Heavy Duty Pads.
http://www.atvaxlesandmore.com/servlet/ ... EAR/Detail


17) Joyner 650 thermostat 180 degrees Napa no.185,195 degrees
Napa no.285. From 1988 suz. samuria,so it will fit carb 800
also.Exact same part as Joyner 6.00

18) Brake switch:Napa ECHSL143,Autozone or duralast is RB401

19) Fuel level float:Sunpro CP7583

20) Fuel pump: Mr Gasket #12s

21) Coil wire:Carquest 717CE Plug wire:Car quest 726K

22) Spark plug:NGK 5122

23) Coil:MSD Blaster 2 # 8202

24) Flasher unit with Littlefuse brand part number flr760bp or
0flr0760xp, both numbers on the back. Sku is 0-7945894026-8.

25) Master Cylinder 1995 Sukuki Sidekick Master
3 Banjo Bolts from Ebay M10 X 1.0 Thread Pitch about 1" Long
This master cylinder does not have a port for brake lights, must
fab up a switch.
updated-installing-automotive-master-on-joyner-650-t28653.html

26) Gas Cap, STANT 11807 (Pep Boys)

27) Rear wheel bearings : Can get at JMC or N2 parts # 608-3496. Here's web page for part: http://www.crosstec.com/wc.dll?ctwp~get ... 002~1004~1

28) Radiator Cap: 1998 Suzuki Samurai
this is the Autozone part number -- MRT13R
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/ ... 7256_2695_

29) Upgraded Radiator:
CIVIC CRX/DEL SOL INTEGRA MT/MANUAL TWO ROW/CORE ALUMINUM RADIATOR ( Must be modified see post 650-ss-radiator-upgrade-t32332.html )

30) Rack and Pinion Boots Cross
Direct replacement is off a 1992 Honda Civic W/Manual steering. All you have to do was cut an old piece of radiator hose that fit around the passenger side of the rack snug. Thanks Mxbrad298

31) Rod Bolts, Head Bolts
Hi,this is for those of you that are running high compression pistons or turbo and want the best cylinder head seal.Joyner 650 head studs
ARP automotive racing products Ventura CA. 805-650-0742 ask for AL
6pcs pt.no. am4.250-1lb desc. m10x1.25x4.250 stud broach
6pcs pt.no. 200-8519 desc.m10ID.750 washer
6pcs pt.no. 300-8344 desc.m10x1.25m18O.D. 12pt.nut
Total Oct. 2009 includes frt. after discount 64.70
Thanks Ghost
New addition from TF
Jb can you add ARP's con rod bolt kit to Ghosts head bolts listing, #31 on the first page...
this is a four cylinder set for '94 & up Mitsu 4G63;
ARP's 8mm Rod Bolt set #673036000646 an exact match, width, shoulder thickness & length !!! although the bolt head is shaped slightly different. The bolt head fits very well. !!!
These bolts are probably 4x the strength of the stock bolts !!!
$ 53.66 for the 4 cyl set (two complete 650cc sets) !!!
Thanks TF


32) Distributor Rotor
A distibutor rotor arm off of a 1986 Subura Brat to work just fine. $5.00 repair.... Part#51-5637 from Carquest autoparts. Autozone Part # is JA901
Thanks, BigRiverBullies for the find.

33) Heavy duty Off Road mirrors:
OK I've noticed people asking about the heavy duty Off Road mirrors. I have these on mine same as Ghost's here's where I got mine, they work great http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=1613

34) Replacement starter:
Well if any of you guys want a high torque starter for carbed 650 or carbed 800,i have 4 left.PM me,i take Pay-pal.It will be 4-5 weeks before i have more.Im going to take care of all Buggy News people first.Ghost

Also: We have 1.2Kw 650 starter , and new low ratio gear . more torque
Klung Industry Co,ltd-Klung buggy and performance parts.
http://www.klung-motor.com

35)Fan replacement upgrade: Hayden Rapid-Cool - Electric Fan Kit
Part # 3680
blknight42:
Thought I would throw this in.... electric fan install. My original fan blade disenigrated in the Az sun... since the cheapest I could find the blade for was $18.00 plus shipping, I bought this 12" unit off E-bay for $22.00 shipped. I just removed old fan motor..cut center supports with a grinder and drilled 4 holes to bolt to old support. Been on about a year now with no issues and seems to work better than original- Pat

36)
The brake light switch from the early VW bugs will fit the original joyner master (VW does use a spade rather than ring- electric connecter) I would assume this also means it would interchange with the 250. Thanks blknight42:


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Parts for Joyner Sand Spider
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:52 pm 
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u freakin rock!

I cant even begin to describe how helpful this information is going to be to not only myself but all other SS owners as well! This information you have tested out/provided definently gives me a little more comfort and hope in being able to keep MY ss up and running. lol

Thanks again man for puttin in the time and $ to do this.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:04 pm 
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Will the disc base work on the rear of SS or just front?

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u freakin rock!

I cant even begin to describe how helpful this information is going to be to not only myself but all other SS owners as well!
Yes Jbquadrider ur awsum !!! So the disk base swaped out fine, thatz very helpfull, my hub to shaft has been staying torqued down tite & havent had issue, but I sure didnt like what I saw the first time I had this apart (it had been run loose previously).

Iz worth a sticky, yes mods ?? as this a great place to gather even more alternatives to OEM (as there currently is almost no OEM parts available)

Great work Jb

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Parts for Joyner Sand Spider
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:51 pm 
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Thanks Guys
Yes, the disk base will work on front or rear. The only part I have not found (other than the engine & Trans) is the axles.

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Parts for Joyner Sand Spider
PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:00 am 
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Im saving these thread for future reference, has some great research & info & hope to see it grow more inclusive of SS interchangable parts.

A link to more of jb's awesum research he's gathered 4 us 650 owners
http://buggynews.com/arctic-cat-rear-knuckle-to-sand-spider-t24475.html

thankz again Steve,
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execellent job!

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Hi JB, great stuff,are the artic cat axels,longer than the joyner,if so maybe possible to cut down and respline,all bet their cvs are better quality as well as alloy of axels,Just a thought .Ghost

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Hey moderators, how about a post sticky, that we can set up for all the different size buggies, where we can add parts replacements as we find them, and be able to go back and find the info with out an exhaustive search each time. Thanks Van

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I soo agree (be able to go back and find the info with out an exhaustive search each time.), is worth a sticky !!!

yes mods ??

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this is great! I guarantee that the artic cat parts are far better quality and will last much longer.

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so the artic cat calipers should work right? it would be nice to be able to go buy brake pads locally. I imagine the calipers will be better too.

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You know, I don't see why they would not. If you do find they work let me know & I'll add to the list.

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Hi,Jb We know that one end of the Artic Cat axle will spline into our hub,do you think we could use any parts of their axle.Ghost

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Not so far, I bought one thinking it might work & no luck. Had to sell it at a big loss, the axles hold their value. It seems that the only ones that have a female spline that goes into our trans is the front axles on the Arctic Cat, these are a smaller & shorter axle.

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has anyone found a steering wheel that is a direct bolt in? mine kinda suck and i would like a new one.

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She's a sticky....
Great job

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Message for jbquadrider please call me 928 344 2117
Love Your cross over parts from arctic cat to 650 spyder
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She's a sticky....
Thankz TH

Jb did some awesome work to get this going,
this thread is great & should only get better

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative Parts for Joyner Sand Spider
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Hello I have a joyner 650 Sand Spider and I found an alternate part number for your oil filter it is a mobile 1, M1-103 it works great and about 12 dollars and can be found at any autoparts store.


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