Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:45 am Posts: 421 Location: Maricopa Az
hi, When you activate the choke you give it a little trottle this accuates a little cam on the choke circut. If this doesn't work you have to remove the carb. On the manifold side there is a choke cover carefully remove try not to damage the gasket, make sure all linkage is operating . The next thing is the accerreator pump circuit. When you open the throttle you should see a little squirt of gas in the venturi. You can go on weber website manual no. 95.0000.54 it was 19.00 its a great book lots of pictures and schematics breakdowns plus every tuning tip known on these carbs. If order anything it has all part numbers. I hope this helps Ghosthunter Will
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:14 am Posts: 67 Location: Fort Wayne, In
I never hooked the choke up on mine. I turn the key on for a few seconds to let fuel pressure to come up, a couple pumps on the throttle, and it always starts right up. Might have to pump a couple more times to keep it running for 1st 15 seconds, but that's all. Good luck.
I took apart hte carb and for what I can see the choke actuates 2 little gears and they lift two little cylinders and beyond that it most do something internal.
So it seems to be functioning but still have troubles starting. As far as the accelerator pump it does squirt when the gas is pressed.
So I don't know what else could be causing it, I am thinking I am running rich but havent had time to tweak the jets would this cause the hard starting issues?
Post subject: Re: Joyner 650 Sand Spider Carb vs. Turbo??
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:46 pm
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Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:08 am Posts: 2
I bought the turbo and the difference is unbelievable night and day.
darkdw15 wrote:
I see lots of posts for each of these but I thought a discussion on both in one post might clear it up!
The carb from what I read is easier on the engine but only supplies ~12hp increase while the turbo gives~16hp increase but the turbo is harder on the engine and costs more!
So has any one tried both and liked one over the other? If you limit the boost will the turbo still cause engine damage? What is the cost of the carb kit?
I am looking to order one or the other and it seems that the posts are either pro-turbo or pro-carb with very little middle ground!
What is the better solution that will ensure good power delivery and no major mechanical problems?
Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:45 am Posts: 421 Location: Maricopa Az
If you are running rich it would easy to load up the engine with making hard to start. Who's plugs are you running and what gap. What air cleaner are you running.
I got champion plugs with standard gap and K & N air filter!
I am blowing black smoke when running and the acceleration and deacceleration are not smooth it seems to miss.
But looking at my plugs I have carbon build up on the edges but the center of the plug is a brown color. I am getting mixed results, I only have a couple hours of riding with the new carb and am wondering if it is needing more break-in time to find its balance?
Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:45 am Posts: 421 Location: Maricopa Az
Sounds to me like your still alittle rich, plugs im running ngk be7s, some guys are running up to be9s even hotter, cross refference your champion and see how hot they are to mine. Im running 33 degrees total advance i think it will take more. Valve adjustment right im running .006 intake,.010 exhaust this has worked the best so far. I hope this helps Ghosthunter
Post subject: Re: Joyner 650 Sand Spider Carb vs. Turbo??
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:20 am
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Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:45 am Posts: 421 Location: Maricopa Az
Road bradshaw trail last week with sidexside guys out in places by myself and copilot,long straight way, could see way up trail,hit speed 76 miles per hour ,fourth gear 5200 on tach,buggy ran great.
Post subject: Re: Joyner 650 Sand Spider Carb vs. Turbo??
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:21 am
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Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:37 pm Posts: 19 Location: wakefield,united kingdom
if possible could someone who has a turbo'd joyner 650 please take a picture or tell me where they get the oil pick up from. I am researching into putting a turbo on my joyner 650 but refuse to pay the £2000 people over here in the UK are asking for them when the parts can be sourced individual for a lot less. i have just a couple of questions if anyone can answer them.
1. the plumbing of the oil return should be quite easy but where do you get the oil feed from, you can get an oil feed from an oil cooler sandwich plate between the filter but wondering if there was another place that would be easier and cheaper. 2. do you need to get a water cooled turbo and run an intercooler or is this optional do the kits use an intercooler im aware that using one would lower intake temps. 3. im aware of the need of an uprated fuel pump and pressure regulator but what fuel pressure is needed. 4. how about fuel enrichment for when the boost kicks in. 5. do you need to do anything abot the ignition timing as when i turbo'd my car a few years ago i had to install a timing retard system for when the boost kicked in. 6. does the standard carb work well with the turbo or do i need to rejet. i know theres a lot there but any help would be welcome thank you.
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