FYI to all we have found on the new 800 cherry engine a Fram 3614 oil filter will fit. This will fit the older 800 carb, 650 (some)
We believe This will work on the 1100 engine also. Some of the early 650 spider's used a 3208 not the 3614. We have found some of the new Commando are now using the 3208 again. I hope this help but you can never tell when things change.. ( DAY TO DAY LOL

I believe someone posted previously that the Fram 4967 fit the Joyner 1100 (Chery 1.1L). This seems to cross reference to the K&N 1003. Has anyone tried the 1003 on the Joyner 1100?

Turbodude is correct, the Fram Tough Gaurd TG3614 filter will fit both sizes. I have used this TG3614 on my 800cc buggy on every oil change so for and it seems to work great. It's a little larger than the rest but that means more filtration to me.

I have a '06 Joyner 800cc carb model, and I bought the Fram PH3618 oil filter but it is to fat to fit in the hole for it to work. Does it have to be the TG3614 version to fit this year, or is it a different Fram model #?

I know that the engine parts don't compare, but most stock replacement parts do. Like "oil filter", plugs , wires, alternator, rotor, cap, belt, to a 1987-1989 Chevy Sprint.

You bought 3618, these guys are talking 3614. ? must be a typo? Anyway, the 3614 is 2.9" in diameter compared to the PH4386 which is 2.685". Both are the same height/length.

I believe for the 800cc carburetor model, a Fram PH4386 or equivalent will work. The carburetor Joyner 800 is the same engine as in the Roketa variants. It is the Suzuki FB8 clone. The Joyner EFI engine is a Chery. The EFI Roketa 800 is also different. I have used the PH4386 on my 800 since '05 without a problem.

Here are the specifications from the WIX filter equivalent.

http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/PartDetail.asp?Part=51396

HTH....mick

Yes that was just a typo on my part, I meant to type 3614. I will try the PH4386. Thanks for the help.

Thanks ma0990 the PH4386 is the correct size for my engine.