Post subject: NEW LEGISLATION FOR LEAD IN CHILDREN
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:46 pm
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I recieved a letter from my atv vender today. the new law that took affect yesterday now PROHIBITES THE SALE OF VEHILCES ATV, DIRT BIKE OR ANY PRODUCT THAT COTAINES LEAD TO ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 12. FINES OF $100,000.00 OR MORE WILL BE ISSUED
There for all sales of these vehicles have stopped until further notice.
I have read the law from the cpsc and it does not say anything about go karts or buggy's. It does group all toys for children under the age of 12.
here is a section from a near by dealer Lawyers are already trying to get the law changed to exclude certian products. I will post the rest of the letter tomorrow
Good Afternoon...forget the good, as our country has descended into lunacy.
I have spent most of the day on two conference calls relative to the subject line above, and I must say I am rather concerned about the fate of our sport and industry. Not to mention our local communities for the further loss of jobs and $$ that our industry brings in each year. It is certainly that dire..believe me.
As of yesterday, all the OEMs had to pull for sale all new youth minicycles and atvs for those under the age of 13...this under order of the CPSC due to lead content of plastics and certain metals. As of yesterday, a dealer or private individual can no longer provide parts or service, to these affected machines, in which there is a possibility that those same parts may contain lead...no oil changes, plastic, levers, engine cases, etc, etc..goggles, helmets, clothing, knee braces..you name it. You may think that is just for new machines, but it is for everything new and used.
The CPSC also ruled that machines under 85cc are considered toxic to the health of young children.
Effective yesterday, Honda has pulled replacement parts from their service system for these machines pending lead certification...this takes 400 days. KTM, Suzuki, Kawasaki, and Yamaha are doing the same thing. If you have a 1,2,3 year old machine, you won't be able to buy most parts for it very soon.
Yamaha is sending out restrictions to its dealers saying that an 85cc bike can only be sold, and should only be operated by someone over the age of 13.
Now to the fun part for us as a race promoter.
Because the manufacturers are now issuing these guidelines, we as promoters cannot allow a youth under the age of 13 to participate for two reasons. We are allowing someone to participate in a sanctioned activity on a vehicle that has been determined by the manufacturer and the CPSC to be unsafe for that age level. We are allowing someone to participate in a sanctioned activity on a vehicle that the CPSC has determined is a toxic substance. If you think I am joking, consider the following MX Sports is considering removing youth classes from the Loretta Lynn's program, GNCC, and ATV Nationals...we run all three of these series and I can tell you that these classes make up over 1/3 of our entries and more than half of our attendance. The AMA will be forced to ban youths under 13 from any AMA amateur or pro competition due to legal ramifications. The same will apply to local districts and sanctioning bodies, as insurance will not be available to cover this exposure. The lifeblood of our sport are these kids..if they cannot participate, they will find something else to do, and we will not get them back. They will not race, watch, or buy products. That means Mom, Dad and older brothers/sisters won't be there either. Unadilla would most likely not participate in any form of amateur racing..with only half or less of the entries left, it wouldn't be financially possible. DO I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION YET!
There are two efforts going on right now to get a temporary stay granted by the CPSC for "Off Road Vehicles." The MIC (Motorcycle Industry Council) and Missouri State House Rep Mike Sense(#4 in line in the MO st govt) are both developing grass roots letter campaigns through websites to develop a ground swell of support for this stay. Keep in mind this is only temporary, and unless a Federal injunction or legislation is developed, this isn't going away.
There are several opinions floating around on this subject saying that our thinking is flawed and that only the sale of new units is affected...if that is the case, why are helmet, goggle, sneakers, sunglasses, OEM parts and accessories, and dealer service being pulled for these units???
I will leave you with this..if indeed this is overblown, and we are right that we shouldn't be affected by this, it still doesn't mean that we can't/won't be sued by someone using this logic, and worse yet, convince a jury that the above is true. If it gets that far, you will have spent nearly a million $$ in your own defense, just to prove you were right all along.
IS IT WORTH THAT TO YOU?
I will get you info on the two websites, and I encourage you to beg everyone you know that rides, owns, promotes, or attends an off road sporting event to get everyone they know in the same manner to fill out one of these letters...Every Mom Dad and Kid should individually enter their name. Then they should contact their local representatives too.
Thanks for listening, and please do not think you can't make a difference..contact your local representatives as well..explain the economic impact this will have..educate yourself on this subject as quickly as you can.
Bad news man.I'm all for banning lead in toys that are going into mouths or what not but come on Besides if I dont mind the risk then I'm a grown man.Ok post a sign that say's may contain lead.We sent in our letters Thanks for the heads up
Post subject: Re: NEW LEGISLATION FOR LEAD IN CHILDREN
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:36 pm
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Joined: Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:57 pm Posts: 537 Location: Douglasville, Ga
4 Letters sent by family.
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Post subject: Re: NEW LEGISLATION FOR LEAD IN CHILDREN
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:00 pm
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Just another law that was taken to the Nth degree when the lead was found in the kids toys from China. Instead of just making SURE the toys were adhering to the standards set BEFORE they went and passed even stricter laws. Which now many companies cannot meet since it was not intended to affect certain products but they have to adhere to it.
Post subject: Re: NEW LEGISLATION FOR LEAD IN CHILDREN
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:32 am
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Thank God we have our government to save us from ourselves! This HAS to be what Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and their buddies had in mind when they started this thing! Seriously..this is just flat out ridiculous.
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Post subject: Re: NEW LEGISLATION FOR LEAD IN CHILDREN
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:36 am
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Joined: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:26 am Posts: 106 Location: Joliet, Illinois
Here is another link. I know it only talks about the major japanese bikes and atv's, but am sure it will somehow be linked to the chinese imports as well......really stupid............
Post subject: Re: NEW LEGISLATION FOR LEAD IN CHILDREN
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:53 am
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Joined: Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:20 am Posts: 36
More liberal bull!!! How much money and how many jobs do you think are affected by this? Millions? Billions? AND, the CPSC, in their oh so infinite wisdom, will need millions, billions of tax payer dollars to oversee the ridiculous restrictions they've put in place and make sure no one is selling or maintaining these machines. The CPSC has been allowed to run wild since the late '80s when they banned 3 wheelers (I'm sorry, but it wasn't the machine's fault, just the idiots that drove them) and put age/machine restrictions in place. Which resulted in the massive price increases in ATV's. How about this? If kids aren't racing on weekends, what are they going to do? As we all know, if left to their own devices, it's too easy to get in trouble. Plus the promoters will lose big time. And with AMA insurance going up and up, guess what? No more race tracks. How about riding areas? Insurance costs? State or federal land? Do you think the Democrats really care enough about our sport to make sure we have a place to ride? If this action is any indication of how much they care, I think not! I stated last year that if the Dems won, they would start taking our land and restricting our sport...Here they go! Thank Obama...
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