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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:51 pm 
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Dragged the latest pile of mystery metal into the garage last week and spent an hour or so stripping it down and starting to mock up the front suspension layout.

Teardown went surprisingly easy, all of the hardware came apart without issue except two of the bolts holding the seat that I had to take the hacksaw to. The bolt ends stuck out below the crossbars on the underside and were bent. Seat itself is shot.

Tried a few positions with the LTZ 400 a-arms to get an idea how it will sit. Full droop in pic.

buggy had equal length arms, the LTZs are unequal, so the lowers will get tucked under the floorpan closer to center with the same alignment as they had on the quad. I have them reversed for front steer, may swap the spindles and put the arms back in the original direction.

Front outside tire to tire width is going to be around 52 inches.

It will definitely need a rack. Even with that i may have to chop the lower tubing at the front corners for tie rod clearance during travel.

Also in the plans are shorter tires -- i think i found some 19s, 22s are on the rims atm. Ironic that i'm killing myself withthe rockhound trying to get taller tires and front brakes on it and this deal is set and ready to go with brakes and bigger tires than it needs or the rockhound has ....

engine (a 125) needs a carb at least and I'll likely bump it up to a bbk kit .

Rear swingarm was pretty butchered, so i'll remake most of that and use the Sunl axle i've been sitting on from the last project. Needs tires and rims.

May not mod the cage layout beyond chopping the rack and tail section off and adding more cross braces up top and a side bar above the existing one.

Welds look better than the last one (Sunl-zuki frame). Little things like welded on wiring harness straps, light mounts and lights that have survived undamaged, and the brake setup, hydraulic with pull rod to a really solid rectangular all metal master/reservoir combo makes it seem more well built quality-wise than i expected.

Maybe being older --2004 --- might account for that ...


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 Post subject: Re: Buggy with no name build ...
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:01 am 
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Is this the one you mentioned had the gear drive pitman arm? Shoot me some pics if your not gonna use it.

Look forward to watchin the build! Always very resourceful and unique with awesome results!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:27 am 
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Here's the steering setup. the connection plate sits on a bit of an angle an looks a bit tweaked. may or may not be the original part since the plate is about the only rusty metal on the buggy. I need to scrape up some funds for a better rack for mine, then transfer my rack to this.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:48 pm 
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Thanks Xbird. I think I'm gonna put that project on the back burner and just buy a rack.

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I know how much fun my gk13 ltz400 is....wow this is going to be a beast!.....200ish lbs less....gonna be fast.

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 Post subject: Re: Buggy with no name build ...
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:51 am 
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kavio013 wrote:
I know how much fun my gk13 ltz400 is....wow this is going to be a beast!.....200ish lbs less....gonna be fast.



This only get the front a-arms. The Z's 434? (i think it may have a stroker crank in it on top of the bbk jug) would be a bit much for a 10 y.o. :lol: That's already home in my ride and i'm loving it --- 'cept i on-the-gas punched a 3-foot tall stump the other day and fubared an upper arm and tie rod.


BTW, i've looked all over your threads searching for pics of your 400 install, you need to update the thread you started on it with some final pics!

For this, I figured out that to get the tie rod clearance, i'm going to have to set the a-arms with the lowers above and not below the lower frame tube.

power-wise it has a 125cc common style gy6 that i may set up with the smaller 150 bbk kit, with the height of the front tires i'm putting on it, i'm going to find or have made a 41 T rear sprocket so it can run a taller rear tire. It's getting my podiums front and rear, sprung pretty soft.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:59 pm 
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About time to drag this thread outta mothballs for some updating. Just shy of a year later and I'm just now really getting into the build. cut the floor off and after playing around with the LTZ front, figured a split and widen followed by grafting it onto the front end would be the best route. working out well so far. ....

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File comment: All burned together. Still need to put in some short tube connections to tie it all together. Waiting til I get steering layout fully figured out.
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Rolling along but starting to run out of metal ....


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 Post subject: Re: Buggy with no name build ...
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:42 am 
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Threw the bits and pieces roughly into position to get an idea of how it'll look. Not so-little one (she's gonna be taller than me soon) has already been fitted for seat, pedals and headroom. got plenty of length and height for her to grow into.


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Getting close to completing the cage. wrapped one side up but for a couple support tubes and the rear hoop supports and rear shock mount setup. That last aspect has to wait until i put the swingarm in position and get my rear shock locations figured out. (Fox podiums)

Meantime, the no-name buggy's rear swingarm is proving to be a fun bit of work.

It looks to have been made as a dual use piece, 125cc GY6 and likely 5-6.5 hp industrial engine since the base has an engine mounting plate with matching industrial engine mount holes. The axle that came with it is too small for the 150cc and tire size parameters of this build so i've got to mod the swingarm to fit the old Sunl SG150 axle.

A couple of years ago, I chopped that swingam up for Rockhound parts, really wish I hadn't, I would have been able to bolt the back end on, drop an engine in and call it done!

So far, i've gotten the new, wider-out bearing hangers plated in and positioned on the swingarm, they'll be getting braced up top and most of the topside framework will need to be shifted so the engine sprocket aligns with the axle sprocket. That old Sunl was a real oddball in that department!


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mock up round 2.


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