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 Post subject: Re: Problems at Carter?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:55 pm 
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Makes sense they took down their (complaint)message board. It was ALL negative...nice idea Carter...but maybe fix things first...the website is now impossible to find specific parts too. That is annoying because if you have a question about ordering a part that is impossible to find on the site-they ask you to contact them-and the contact info is useless because noone answers calls or emails at Carter anymore-
maybe they do now-but I gave up a few months ago after about 12 unanswered calls and about 20 unanswered emails.
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 Post subject: Re: Problems at Carter?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:49 pm 
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Wow Mike, it sucks you're having this much frustration, but thanks for venting, I begin to feel I'm the only one! You hit the nail on the head though. I've owned Carter carts for 5 years, and there was a time when their service was great. No more. Again, there are still a few who care, but they seem powerless to do anything to help the customer beyond good sound advice for troubleshooting. Troubleshooting is great service, right up to the point where you've figured out the problem and they do not have the part.


No riding since May.....and counting. $300 worth of troubleshooting parts. Then I recieve a wire harness from them that fixes the "no spark" problem and promptly fries my CDI. Opps, forgot to tell me that the new wiring harness requires ME to fix it prior to install.

ARGGHHH! :x

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 Post subject: Re: Problems at Carter?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:05 pm 
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Well that just sucks,I was looking to buy a new carter buggy when they come out if they ever do.If they are having that much trouble this turns off every new buyer out there to there machines. [-X


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 Post subject: Re: Problems at Carter?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:39 pm 
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the biggest thing thats happening is with the bad economy they have cut hours back, so that meens less people to answer the phones. they are just like the rest of the companies in the US having to cut back while come out with new products.

Carter wants people to buy from a carter dealer when possible which in turn will help them. I to have to wait on back orders and every now and then have to leave a message. I know its frustrateing and I get that way to, but I know they are doing fine in this dirty diaper y economy and it does take alot of effort to have a made in the USA product.

I am not saying that they shouldnt return calls or email, they should we just have to reliaze the economy effects all of us and they do want customers to be happy. so I would check with local dealers for parts .

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 Post subject: Re: Problems at Carter?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:05 pm 
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I wish I had a local dealer. The store that was selling Carter disconitnued selling/servicing them. Why? Because Carters' bad service was giving thier store a bad rep.

Eric, I get the bad economy, believe me I get it. We've had to lay off over 120 people this year. Every one of them is a person, with a family, and bills, and a story. It sucks. But at the end of the day, we've become more effecient, more profitable, and our serivce level to our customers has actually gone up. The folks who kept their jobs, begin to realy value thier jobs. And don't forget, it's not like you have fewer people servicing the same number of customers. It's fewer costomers as well.

I'm sure the economy has had a negative impact on your business. And you're the backbone of this country, family owned/operated. But you know what, economy or not, I've never heard one bad comment about your business. People go out of their way to comment how helpful you are. Carter could take a cue from you. =D>

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 Post subject: Re: Problems at Carter?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:42 pm 
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Truth be told..Carter is lucky to have guys like BigE still keeping THEIR biz going. The economy is indeed bad, but not an excuse for NON EXISTANT customer service. Slow, I get that, but ignoring potential customers is not a good business model-it is a for sure way to go out of business.
My local dealer would be a valuable resource if they weren't crooks on top of crooks. A $40 strut from Carter directly is $90 at my local dealer-he is more interested in bending customers over than making the industry better.
Mini Trail Bikes Inc, Lindenwold, NJ-their reputation precedes them for sure.
Anyway it is sad that instead of action Carter offers excuses...and have mismanaged their good people they have left. Hard to believe that ANYONE is answering ANYTHING there when I had 35 total inquiries ignored.
BigE Carter is lucky to have you in their corner-you are the only person I know of doing ANYTHING related to Carter products.
Still Sad :cry:


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 Post subject: Re: Problems at Carter?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:05 am 
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yes the economy and the lead laws have effected my biz along with the other dealers across the country. While we have to keep our level of service at the same or higher than before there are times that I cant catch every call but I do return them.

When I was restoring cars I worked for a company called Year One, back then there was 15 of us answering the phones, most days we answered between 80-125 calls each per day. sometimes a message got forgotten about or a call missed so I can understand how they can miss a call.

But If someone leaves a message and its in the system it should be returned. as far as having alot of different parts in stock goes , yes there should be cdi in stock . I am not trying to make excuses for Carter but as a biz owner I can understand that when spending as much as they are on bring manufacturing back home sometimes the budget will get cut from one area to furnish another

I any one needs anything for a Carter I will try and help any way I can to get the part

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 Post subject: Re: Problems at Carter?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:26 am 
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Eric you should send this thread to Carter. Theres alot of guy's looking to buy. Tax time is around the cornor. X-mass as well. If someone does a search for Carter the mighty BN will pop up and since this is the newest thread this is what you'll find.

They should also cut you a check for having to play custmer service and damage control.

If I was running Carter I would send these guy's a bone plus the parts they need with an apology letter.

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 Post subject: Re: Problems at Carter?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:21 am 
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Here is lesson for anyone in customer service (and who isn't).

Quote:
No one can make you serve customers well.
That's because great service is a choice.

Harvey Mackay, tells a wonderful story about a cab driver that proved this point.

He was waiting in line for a ride at the airport. When a cab pulled up, the first thing Harvey noticed was that the taxi was polished to a bright shine. Smartly dressed in a white shirt, black tie, and freshly pressed black slacks, the cab driver jumped out and rounded the car to open the back passenger door for Harvey .

He handed my friend a laminated card and said: 'I'm Wally, your driver. While I'm loading your bags in the trunk I'd like you to read my mission statement.'

Taken aback, Harvey read the card.

It said: Wally's Mission Statement:
”To get my customers to their destination in the quickest, safest and cheapest way possible in a friendly environment”.

This blew Harvey away. Especially when he noticed that the inside of the cab matched the outside. Spotlessly clean!

As he slid behind the wheel, Wally said, 'Would you like a cup of coffee? I have a thermos of regular and one of decaf.'

My friend said jokingly, 'No, I'd prefer a soft drink.'

Wally smiled and said, 'No problem. I have a cooler up front with regular and Diet Coke, water and orange juice.'

Almost stuttering, Harvey said, 'I'll take a Diet Coke.'

Handing him his drink, Wally said, 'If you'd like something to read, I have The Wall Street Journal, Time, Sports Illustrated and USA Today.'

As they were pulling away, Wally handed my friend another laminated card, 'These are the stations I get and the music they play, if you'd like to listen to the radio.'

And as if that weren't enough, Wally told Harvey that he had the air conditioning on and asked if the temperature was comfortable for him.

Then he advised Harvey of the best route to his destination for that time of day. He also let him know that he'd be happy to chat and tell him about some of the sights or, if Harvey preferred, to leave him with his own thoughts.

'Tell me, Wally,' my amazed friend asked the driver, 'have you always served customers like this?'

Wally smiled into the rear view mirror. 'No, not always. In fact, it's only been in the last two years. My first five years driving, I spent most of my time complaining like all the rest of the cabbies do. Then I heard the personal growth guru, Wayne Dyer, on the radio one day.

He had just written a book called “You'll See It When You Believe It”. Dyer said that if you get up in the morning expecting to have a bad day, you'll rarely disappoint yourself. He said, 'Stop complaining! Differentiate yourself from your competition. Don't be a duck. Be an eagle. Ducks quack and complain. Eagles soar above the crowd.''

That hit me right between the eyes,' said Wally. 'Dyer was really talking about me. I was always quacking and complaining, so I decided to change my attitude and become an eagle. I looked around at the other cabs and their drivers. The cabs were dirty, the drivers were unfriendly, and the customers were unhappy. So I decided to make some changes. I put in a few at a time. When my customers responded well, I did more.'

'I take it that has paid off for you,' Harvey said.

'It sure has,' Wally replied. 'My first year as an eagle, I doubled my income from the previous year. This year I'll probably quadruple it. You were lucky to get me today. I don't sit at cabstands anymore. My customers call me for appointments on my cell phone or leave a message on my answering machine. If I can't pick them up myself, I get a reliable cabbie friend to do it and I take a piece of the action.'

Wally was phenomenal. He was running a limo service out of a Yellow Cab. I've probably told that story to more than fifty cab drivers over the years, and only two took the idea and ran with it. Whenever I go to their cities, I give them a call. The rest of the drivers quacked like ducks and told me all the reasons they couldn't do any of what I was suggesting.

Wally the Cab Driver made a different choice. He decided to stop quacking like ducks and start soaring like eagles.

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 Post subject: Re: Problems at Carter?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:22 am 
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Carter is a company going thru a rather large transition right now and with the economy being what it is, with importers having huge problems getting anything in from China, I imagine Carter is dealing with these issues as well. In fact, I know they were earlier this year. That being said, BigE got me a replacement strut two months ago that took all of about two weeks with no issues.

I've also worried about continued support for the Chinese Carters once the new American ones come out. I hope they will not abandon or diminish support for those buggies....there are a devilville of a lot of them out there. Carter has a reputation and history of providing quality service and products, hopefully they will remember the importance of that reputation.

All that being said, excuses for not having parts don't carry much weight when a guy is sitting around unable to use his buggy.

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