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 Post subject: Smoked Belt
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:48 pm 
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I was climbing a monster hill this past weekend on the 3203 and 3/4 of the way up I hit a rock that stopped me dead #-o I was able to roll back a bit and gun the engine which popped the front wheels off the ground and got me over the rock and up the trail [-o< Rode for about another hour going through some pretty thick mud bogs :twisted:

All was well and good, but something didn't feel quite right. Felt like I was losing power #-o After a couple of more mud holes, I couldn't even climb a hill on a gravel road and had to be towed back to camp. #-o I'm not sure, but I think I may have gotten something jammed in my mechanical disc brake. :?

Anywho...my question is about getting stopped on the monster hill...Does the belt smoking indicate I need more HP from my engine, a better clutch, or a better torque converter. I ditched the 6.5 horse tecumsuh and replaced it with a 7 horse subaru robin. It has way more torque (more than a stock gy6 150), but I still have the stock comet clutch and converter. Is there a better clutch/converter I can put on this thing? :?:

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 Post subject: Re: Smoked Belt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:01 am 
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The belt is probably toast.I would check the pressure of the driven pulley.If the springs are weak it will slip alot,smoking the belt

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 Post subject: Re: Smoked Belt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:21 am 
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Funnyman wrote:
The belt is probably toast.I would check the pressure of the driven pulley.If the springs are weak it will slip alot,smoking the belt


How do I test it?

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 Post subject: Re: Smoked Belt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:42 am 
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Smoke coming from the CVT is usually NOT the belt - it's the clutch and/or bell overheating and possibly melting. A belt will simply break.

I'd inspect your clutch for glazed pads, and the bell for blue/purple glazing. Replace one or both if really bad. Once they start going, it's all downhill from there - literally and figuratively.

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 Post subject: Re: Smoked Belt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:20 am 
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DustBuggy wrote:
I'd inspect your clutch for glazed pads, and the bell for blue/purple glazing.


Will do...thanks for the heads up!

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 Post subject: Re: Smoked Belt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:31 am 
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DustBuggy wrote:
Smoke coming from the CVT is usually NOT the belt - it's the clutch and/or bell overheating and possibly melting. A belt will simply break.

I'd inspect your clutch for glazed pads, and the bell for blue/purple glazing. Replace one or both if really bad. Once they start going, it's all downhill from there - literally and figuratively.

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Dont think his yerf 3203 has a cvt,the driven pulley has a wound up torque spring which you can change the spring pressure

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 Post subject: Re: Smoked Belt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:48 am 
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On my old cart I have smoked the he77 out of my belt. A belt will definitely smoke ALOT without breaking.

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 Post subject: Re: Smoked Belt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:57 am 
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Funnyman wrote:
Dont think his yerf 3203 has a cvt,the driven pulley has a wound up torque spring which you can change the spring pressure


I thought this was a CVT :?:

But the BIG question is...how do I conquer this hill? I haven't removed the governer on the subaru engine, so I think I can get more HP out of it. I have a 9 tooth drive sprocket and a bigger driven sprocket (don't remember the tooth count) :oops:

Is there a better clutch/torque converter/cvt I can get for the 3/4" shaft that will pull me up a mountain? [-o< I don't wanna drop $70 on a clutch every time out [-X

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 Post subject: Re: Smoked Belt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:08 pm 
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Funnyman wrote:
Dont think his yerf 3203 has a cvt,


Oops-- I fail at reading comprehension. [-X

I just get so used to everything being GY6 or 250 :)

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 Post subject: Re: Smoked Belt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:07 pm 
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stardawg wrote:
Funnyman wrote:
Dont think his yerf 3203 has a cvt,the driven pulley has a wound up torque spring which you can change the spring pressure


I thought this was a CVT :?:

But the BIG question is...how do I conquer this hill? I haven't removed the governer on the subaru engine, so I think I can get more HP out of it. I have a 9 tooth drive sprocket and a bigger driven sprocket (don't remember the tooth count) :oops:

Is there a better clutch/torque converter/cvt I can get for the 3/4" shaft that will pull me up a mountain? [-o< I don't wanna drop $70 on a clutch every time out [-X


I think you have a comet system.You can change the spring and or the spring hole on the driven pulley.If you can take pictures of your system that would be helpful

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