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 Post subject: Re: Spardi & Parts4Gokarts
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:29 pm 
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Man look no ones saying your a bad dealer. We have trusted dealers that are, well, Trusted. I dont know you at all. If you are a good dealer than time will tell.

Now if you dont pay to advertise on this site then it dont matter. If the only time you post is to sell something then it really dont matter. If they let every one sell stuff then why pay to advertise.

I really hope you do well. We need more good guy's on the parts end.

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 Post subject: Re: Spardi & Parts4Gokarts
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:34 pm 
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spardi wrote:
I dont think all that is neccesary. Revealing my personal info to the whole world.


Nothing was revealed that was not already publicly available to *everyone* with an Internet connection. You quoting all the information here actually compounds the issue since all your info will now rank higher on a search engine results.

Anyone and everyone who owns a website has the option of paying to keep their registration information private. You chose not to. No crime was committed here.


spardi wrote:
We just started the buisness and the site. So we are working to fix all the glitches to the site.


Sounds good.

spardi wrote:
Whats wrong with trying to get more views on our buisness.


Here is the heart of the problem. You tried to place YOURSELF on the "Trusted Dealer List" on Buggy News. This isn't something that any of the dealers on that list (including myself) got to vote on NOR nominate ourselves for.

You attempted to anonymously promote yourself as something that you are not: a "trusted" Buggy News associated dealer.

When I first started up and wanted to promote my business on Buggy News, I contacted the admins and inquired as to what would be an appropriate way to go about doing that. They encouraged me to post in the "Dealer/distributor Announcements" forum, and changed my Avatar title to reflect that I was a dealer. I was also encouraged to support Buggy News by purchasing ad space - which I did. This has benefitted me greatly, and I like being able to give back to the site with my financial support and knowledge assistance with folks and their buggies.

You broke some serious business ethics, Internet, and forum rules when you attempted to portray yourself as something that you are not: a trusted Buggy News dealer.

All of the reaction stems from that, and that alone. All you've managed to earn at this point is a strike against yourself and your business. Probably not the free advertising you were looking for.

spardi wrote:
We recently uploaded all the vehicles and havent uploaded the parts section. That doesnt mean we dont have parts yet. And for the name, parts4gokarts. There arent that many available adresses out there.

And Its not that difficult to compare your own buisness with others. We have lower prices on alot of our stuff,and we also have great customer support.


Best prices is irrelevant, and great customer support is solely in the eye of the customer. Apple Computer does not declare that they have industry leading customer support and satisfaction, but they can point to all the independent surveys showing this fact. What proof can you offer?

And do you have a showroom and all these vehicles in stock, or are you just a drop-shipper? Most drop-shippers have a less-than-fantastic reputation - what do you have to offer that will differentiate you from the rest?

spardi wrote:
I think you all took this too far.Way too far.


I partially agree with you, but I also believe that you violated a good number of acceptable business ethics - which puts the ball back in your court to recover from.

Please don't interpret this as a personal attack. We don't know one another and have no bad blood or history. I'm simply trying to shine a light on why you can't make the claims that you are making, and why folks got so up in arms about what you did.

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 Post subject: Re: Spardi & Parts4Gokarts
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:37 pm 
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Look, you're absolutely welcome here, but even you have to admit, that post was deceiving. You referred to your business in the third person as if you had no connection to it. Inserting your own business' name in the list of trusted dealers probably wasn't the best thing to do. How many people do you trust at first contact?

I hope you stick around and contribute to the site. Just do it the right way, please.

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 Post subject: Re: Spardi & Parts4Gokarts
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:50 pm 
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Really didn't mean to cause that much of a stir. Just did a quick look up with a search program that goes through public records of web sites. You can do it for every web site out there.

I was wondering how long you had been in business.

How long you been in business prior to the web site?

Really hoping that it does all work out.

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 Post subject: Re: Spardi & Parts4Gokarts
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:02 pm 
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You did nothing wrong looking up information. I do that with every business that gets my money. None of this information is private - It is the public registration information that is provided by the owner. As DustBuggy previously explained, there are ways to mask this information if the owner takes the initiative.

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 Post subject: Re: Spardi & Parts4Gokarts
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:55 pm 
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Man,what a bad start for me being new. I didnt read the trusted dealers site. I just went to the end and put my post because I saw trusted dealers.(I dont think that should have triggered all this) Im sorry for that. Im very new to this site and obviously dont know the rules. Every message board is different. So on my part I will read all the rules.

DustBuggy wrote:
And do you have a showroom and all these vehicles in stock, or are you just a drop-shipper? Most drop-shippers have a less-than-fantastic reputation - what do you have to offer that will differentiate you from the rest?
-Mike


Most dealers dont have a showroom of that many vehicles, But, we do have many items in stock in our garage.The warehouse we buy from is a very short drive from where I am. Maybe 20 minutes at most. So actualy I can get anything whenever I want. What I have to offer to differentiate from others. All us chinese gokarters know how hard it can be to get parts. Once our site is completly up we will have parts for almost every gokart. We are pricing tremendously lower, and we have lots of knowledge on gokarts, atv's,mopeds and etc. So we can help install, every buyer has been satisfied with us.

This just has been taking too far. I dont know how many of you have started a buisness in a reccesion but it is very difficult. So lets just forget all this and try to start over. . 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Spardi & Parts4Gokarts
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:42 pm 
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You have conducted yourself in a controlled and restrained manner (even if off-line you might have flown off the handle) - This is a step in the right direction. If there is ever a question about posting please feel free to contact the owner (Pilot) or one of the moderators through Private Messaging (PM).

Our goal to enjoy this interest and encourage others that share it. This also means weeding out "bad apples" and filtering some content that does not lead to positive resolve. Although you may have started with some misunderstanding, there is no reason you cannot shine with your future actions. Study the dealers that are successful and dig through the forums of the ones that failed - There's a lot of free guidance in these posts.

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 Post subject: Re: Spardi & Parts4Gokarts
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:46 pm 
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