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Author:  FenceMan [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Question about towing (3) karts.
I have a 2007 Honda Odyssey without the towing package. I have added an aftermarket tow bar and lights. According to Honda the Odyssey is rated to tow 2000lbs without the tow package.

I would like to tow the following:

Trailer:
http://www.teskemfg.com/atv2.html
(reported by mfg to weigh 1100 lbs)

Karts:
http://bladepowersports.com/110rm.asp
(reported on page as 180 lbs, seems a bit low to me)

http://www.hammerheadoffroad.com/GT200.html
(reported on page as 415 lbs)

http://www.powersportsmax.com/product_i ... cts_id/503
(reported on page as 297 lbs)

I cannot figure out how the Blade 110 can possibly weigh less than the Roketa 90cc?

Anyway if all above is correct it totals 1992 lbs, does this sound like an ok setup? I got the karts out of storage today and drove about 10 miles, everything seemed ok, but I want to be sure before I take any major drives with this setup.

Thanks in advance.
Author:  Spool [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:28 pm ]
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Don't know about the Blade 110 or the other buggy but the I'm sure the Hammerhead GT200 weighs a lot more than 415lbs. Check out the Buggy weight sticky. In that post Blister reported his 2005 Twister 150 as weighing 561lbs. I can't see the GT200 weighing nearly 150lbs less with the only major difference being a less substantial roll cage.

http://www.buggynews.com/topic2984.html

Your best bet would to get a couple of bathroom scales and weigh the buggys and your trailer yourself. That way (no pun intended :) ) you can be sure of the weights. 2000lbs seems like a pretty low tow rating for a mini van but pushing the limit is probably not a good idea. I'm sure you'd have no problems getting that much weight moving but your stopping and handling will be reduced greatly.

Jamie
Author:  pghruby [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:54 pm ]
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You may be able to increase your towing capacity by adding trailer brakes or replacing your current trailer for one that has brakes. Depending on the terrain where you will be towing the trailer, you may be able tow more weight safely although I would not advise hilly or mountainous roads.
Author:  FenceMan [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:58 pm ]
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I don't understand why is the reported weight from the mfg incorrect? I got the weight of the HH200 (and the others) directly from the website of the mfg...
Author:  rcmaster1029 [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:45 pm ]
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That GT200 is definitely not 415 pounds. My Carter 150 is over 500 pounds.
Author:  j9m9t [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:35 pm ]
Post subject:  towing issues
If you get a trailer with brakes and install a brake controller you will be able to use the brakes on your trailer to stop your load. You can also install air shocks on your vehicle to give you a grater payload. Saying that your main issue is going to be your transmission temp. The larger the load you carry you the harder your trans is going to work. What you can do is install a trans cooler. That is what a towing package is-hitch/light plug/trans cooler. The cooler is a simple install that will run between 100 to 200.
Author:  atpalmer [ Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:22 pm ]
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FenceMan wrote:
I don't understand why is the reported weight from the mfg incorrect? I got the weight of the HH200 (and the others) directly from the website of the mfg...


Manufacturers usually list dry weights. Add fuel, oil, brake fluid etc. You will also probably be towing some gear along with the buggies, helmets, tools etc.
Author:  pud [ Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:51 pm ]
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did you get a (certificate of orgin for a vehicle) like a title when you got your buggys. i was surprised when i got this sunl that it had won.if so look on it mine said 298 which was kg's
converted over to pounds come up with 655 lbs.that was shipping weight of buggy.i remember looking at the scales on the forklift the day they set it in the truck.it didn't weigh a whole lot more then that but it was in a small metal crate not much weight to it just bulky to handle.
pud
Author:  vanet [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:03 pm ]
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Manufacturers usually list dry weights. Add fuel, oil, brake fluid etc. You will also probably be towing some gear along with the buggies, helmets, tools etc.

Manufactuers dont list dry weights, they list imagined weights. The only weigh to get the real weight is to use a bill of lading wich will be a little high because of packageing or weigh it your self. 2 or 300 lbs weight differences from the manufacturers fairy tell weights is common.
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:35 pm

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If you get a trailer with brakes and install a brake controller you will be able to use the brakes on your trailer to stop your load. You can also install air shocks on your vehicle to give you a grater payload. Saying that your main issue is going to be your transmission temp. The larger the load you carry you the harder your trans is going to work. What you can do is install a trans cooler. That is what a towing package is-hitch/light plug/trans cooler. The cooler is a simple install that will run between 100 to 200.

This is the best advice. You can get a trailer with brakes and improve your suspention but the main change in a tow package is cooling. If you tow any distance without adaquate cooling for the tranny and engine you will do serious (read expensive) damage to your vehicle.
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