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 Post subject: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:36 pm 
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Stumbled across this forum and looks like I will be spending quite a few hours on this site. Great info and knowledge here for sure. I will get some pics tomorrow, only have one of my Dad sitting in it yesterday after I picked it up.

Looking to eventually build a decent performing naturally aspirated 650. It should run better than it does, I know it's heavy but looks like there is quite a bit left after looking at the carb/intake setup.

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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
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Welcome. I'm not sure what your title says, but you have a 2006 model. It should have the heavier 12mm lug nuts, standard integrated gauge, high flow exhaust and intake and larger chrome fuel tank.

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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:30 am 
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thanks pgh, yes it is a 2006 model. I will get some pics today, I have a small powdercoating booth at my house, and there is a lot of much needed work ;)

Seems like 4th gear doesn't rev out too good, I did some reading on here about the 06's being a little taller geared. I was trying to find some posts on basic performance mods without doing too much. I build raptor 660's porting/engine work, etc so I will be going full throttle into the engine at a later date.

I thought about plugging the vacuum advance today and capping the vacuum line on carb, as well as timing it mechanically 6-8 degrees

pulling off the intake manifold and doing a quick little clean up porting, removing the castings a little and polishing it up.

I have a bunch of jets so I can play with the main jet a little after porting it.

The exhaust welding where it goes two into one is hideous, and the flow is definitely hurt there as well.

I adjusted the throttle stop, the previous owner never touched it and they were only getting half throttle lol

I know how to use the search function, so I will be looking for some jetting advice today ( I am also very familiar and have a few carbs laying around for our drag/dune bikes) Dual 39 FCR's ( they work on our raptors up to 100 hp to the rear wheels) Even the stock dual 33's would be an upgrade for this, I can get a big bore raptor to almost 70hr by modding hhe stock carbs. I have some of those laying around here somewhere...

sorry for the long rear end post

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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
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The exhaust welding where it goes two into one is hideous, and the flow is definitely hurt there as well.

And that's the better header pipe. The original one and the one used on EU models is even more restricted...

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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
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reading up on CV's now, I need to get boots for everything, they are all cracked or at least brittle... looking for a place to order now. I also have an intermittent clicking on the drivers side, so I'm guessing cv needs replaced, has about 1900 miles on it now...

going to drop the oil today, picked up a mobil 1 filter today that I saw was a cross reference and short enough to fit. Need to find a post with oil capacity...

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There are a couple different manual in the form that shows 2.9L includes oil filter.


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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:56 pm 
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Hi Raptor,welcome aboard,anything you need to know just ask,Team Farm or myself.Were planning bash get together in Flagstaff (Cinders) you will see new post first of may.There will be 4-5 650's there,you should come and meet some great buggy people.Plus the fact its in the 80's during the day and 50's at night.Ghost

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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
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Thank you Ghost and everyone for the warm welcome. We usually hit up the Cinders twice in the summer, Memorial and Labor day weekend. Never done it in a buggy. Been going there since the 80's. Check out a few of my cinders videos (my sisters husband is pretty good at video editing, i'm not) the vids will get you in cinder mood for sure... Hell I'm going to watch a few now... And Ghost I will definitely be asking questions.

tried to embed the youtube video... no worky

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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
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a few more cinder videos we made...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxMt20SIrzA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtR_Q8sWLu4

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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
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one of the turn signal bulbs was out and I broke the lens since they were so brittle.

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I build wrecked motorcycles and flip them so I have a ton of parts laying around... Have some billet lights laying around and they look ok so I'm going to throw them on.
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it had a crusty sun rotted uni foam filter, so I looked in my filter inventory and grabbed a k&n and threw it on...
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got it all registered fully street legal as well as insured today through allstate, so I took my daughter on a date
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Put in some new spark plugs today, need to flush coolant tomorrow, and a fresh oil change. Noticed when I'm turning left I have a popping sound from the rear end... CV boot and axle time it looks like

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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
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Welcome! Gotta love the 650!!!

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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:43 pm 
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Nice video,that stock carb is junk.You should probably replace that axle on drivers side.New boots and repack passenger side.JB says Moly 100 is the best cv grease.Ghost

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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
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Plus you will love Cinders in a buggy,ride all day and no monkey butt.On the headlights read here on BN about LEDs only way to fly,alot more light and less amperage,reasonable too.Ghost

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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
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Thanks Ghost I will definitely end up rebuilding the rear end. I see a lot of different options for boots on here, which do you prefer? LEDs look like the hot lick for sure... Was just reading up on them, a lot of great info on here with great support, thank you

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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
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Started flushing the coolant... not sure if it was ever changed... on my third round of distilled water!!!

Picked up two fram filters and one wix filter, the cheap frams are just for oil flushing, going to mut a few miles on it, change it etc and switching over to semi-synthetic oil... Had to loosen the rear motor mounts and pry the engine up so I could spin on the filter. Got rid of the charcoal cannister... looks like the radiator cap is leaking so I will be in the market for one of those as well. I think I saw an automotive crossover for that, as well as the Gas cap, not sure what the previous owner put on there but it doesn't really fit and it is not a locking cap.

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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
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Hi raptor,Jmc should have both those caps.Don't sell the Fram filter short,thats all i ever used.I have had no problems with stock boots.Jbquadrider is using a Honda quad boot he likes.Ghost

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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
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I flushed out the coolant about 8 times... it was pretty nasty, i'm a little worried about all the corrosion I found and I couldn't take looking at the stock carb any more... I grabbed a 660 raptor carb I modified a little to feed one of the old 60 hp bikes and looked at it. here it is up to the stocker
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It is a dual mikuni 33. I know nobody has done it before but I want to work on general maintenence (as well as axle/cv upgrade being my first big purchase) I will try it and let you know how it goes, I'm heading out to the garage to build a manifold right now.

I'm not new to building manifolds, this is one I built for a buddy... I actually went from dual carbs to a big 48mm flatslide HSR carb, it runs great
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 Post subject: Re: New Member from AZ (Joyner 650)
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Since this is a welcome to new members, here is a few pics of me and my family

Here is my old drag bike in action, with my Dad piloting it
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Broke my leg Thanksgiving in the Dunes, put a soft cast on it and still rode for another 4 days
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My new "sleeper" bike
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good pic from the top of china wall
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my dad on his stroker
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my uncle hitting the hill on his 700
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my buddy Chato on his 700
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my sister and her big bore 660
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My mom on her bolt on 700 and Chato after some paint work
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Gave eachother IV's after a hard night of drinking
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