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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:49 pm 
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When we take out buggies with us, we use a toy hauler camper trailer. The campgrounds don't always have direct access to riding areas and I do not want to break up camp each time we go out, so I have set up a buggy train that allows me to triple tow two buggies behind my truck on all four wheels.

The Yerf-Dog was easy to set up with a tow bar to the lower shock mounts, but the Joyner has no straight edges up front to mount the bar and clear the nose. I found I could mount a 3' piece of angle iron between the frame and winch and secure it to the upper a-arm bolts to give me the mounting point I needed. There is a lot of stress put on this angle, so you need a minimum of 1/4" thick stock. I could not find 1-1/2" angle that was that thick, so I ran a second piece of angle inside the first that is 1-1/4". Both angle pieces I am using are 3/16", so I have 3/8" of material bolted together with grade 8 hardware.


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how far do you tow these? Is there a max speed you can go, like 40-45, without causing any damage to bearings, races, clutches, belts or anything?



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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:20 pm 
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I stay under 35 mph and less than 15 miles total towing. Typically the campgrounds are within 5 miles of the ORV access and are accessed by secondary roads.

The Yerf's GY6 engine does not engage since nothing is spinning beyond the clutch bell. The clutch, belt, variator and engine do not move. I keep the the duration and speed down to prevent bearing heat up and have never had a problem with either Yerf.

The Joyner 650SS is a manual transmission, so putting it in neutral will free the rest of the drive train. I really don't worry about the bearings on this buggy, but the tires are not highway rated.

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cooooooool


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how do you get the joyner to turn

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ageekwithabuggy wrote:
how do you get the joyner to turn

As long as the steering is not locked, the front wheels will track which ever way force is applied to the frame. This is why it is critical to to find or create strong mount points for the tow bar.

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aha so is it the same way on the yerf

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PG; Vvvvery nice !!! Looks great, stonng, & well layed out.... you such a maticulous craftman !! So you obviously ready for the Memorial Day Bash at Moses Lake
See you Fri. Tj insists I bring his dirt bike (he gonna wear his Leatte neck brace), probaboly learn a bit about riding in the deep sand... GSR 150 all tuned up ready to go, Joyner cant wait !! & GSR 250 (struts still being fabricated) but will be ready Mon.

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It's time to start working on 4-wheel towing for the SandViper. It does not have an easy attachment point on either end, so Harbor Freight specials will get my project going...


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File comment: The same 5000# tow bar I currently use for the SandSpider and Spiderbox.
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File comment: A 2" receiver on the rear of the SandViper will allow me to hook up all kinds things.
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